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    Como no hay reviews del modelo de 75", buenas son algunas opiniones de usuarios:

    Received my 75 Q9 Friday and so far been happy. Coming from an old 50 inch pioneer kuro plasma for reference. Here are some of my comments.

    Attaching the stand is a pain. Samsung wants you to lay the panel flat on a table but we don’t have one large enough. Stood the panel on end to attach the stand.

    Once powered up the setup is very easy and used the remote to set everything up. This tv is very bright and takes some time to get use to coming from a plasma. Out of the box and once in movie mode the colors seem to be reasonable and didn’t see the issues others have seen.

    I played some of the dse tests from YouTube and there is some very light vertical streaks but only when the background is bright and you had to really look for it. Overall not bad and didn’t see any during real scenes. The upscaling from Comcast is good and no worse than my old tv.

    I did see the pulsating luminance during the end of Jessica Jones episode 1. It lasted for about a minute then went away when the overall scene luminous increased. So far this is the only scene that gave the tv fits ( still running firmware 1051 but it was in movie mode)

    Motion seems fine but in a slow panning scene there is some judder jerking motion, during fast action it is smooth. I hope I can fix it in settings. First Samsung tv hoping it is not just the way they are

    Coming from a plasma I was concerned about black, contrast, blooming and halos. So far I am happy, the Q9 does a good job in controlling halos and blooming. The blacks are black and not dark grey but I am getting some black crush. Again the set is not tuned up yet but there is enough depth in the picture that the black level is pretty good - maybe need a small tweak to gamma. The top and bottom black bars are black and no blooming even when the edges are very bright. I can make it bloom in dynamic mode and cranking up the brightness but it is so bright not sure anyone could watch it for long.

    Overall a very impressive tv. My only complaints so far are 1) pulsating luminance in one scene so far but it is very distracting 2) the poor motion in a slow panning scene

    Thanks GregLee. Changing brightness to +2 fixed the black crush. I will play around with gamma to see what I like best. Contrast enhancer has been off in all cases

    EJ in AZ nice write up. I am coming from a plasma also and didn’t think I would say this but the Q9 is better than my old Kuro. Not sure how the blacks compare on an instrument but to my eyes the blacks on the Q9 are very good, inky good..
    Q9fn 75"
    I've had a few days to get used to the 75" Q9FN now. Would I recommend this set to someone looking for a high-end display? If you want a display that can do everything extremely well, and you don't mind paying for it, yes.

    Picture:
    Coming from a plasma the picture on the Q9FN is breathtaking and a clear upgrade. The contrast and local dimming work together to display a picture that at once has brighter brights than I've ever seen before while showing true blacks that are indiscernible, to my eye, from my plasma. Blacks that my plasma crushes have depth on the QLED.

    The brightness took some getting used to, and it made capturing a picture difficult. I included some pictures of my living room to give you an idea of how tough the brightness makes it - the lighting stayed the same, but when the camera tries to adjust to a bright scene on the display if makes everything else look dim. I will say that the pictures don't do the actual television justice - any wash, crush, blur, loss of detail et cetera are from the camera and not the Q9.

    The colors are similarly spectacular. After watching a few shows and movies my wife commented that she will never be able to go back to a movie theater because the Q9 makes movies seem dull, dim, flat and dingy by comparison.

    Black bars are black in everything we've watched. We can't see blooming, and we've watched a variety of sci-fi. We are not videophiles, however, and your mileage may vary. One thing we've noticed is something that Joey from modernwize mentioned a few weeks ago - the bright highlights are like looking into a headlight on a dark night - if there is any blooming my eyes can't tell because there is enough contrast that it overwhelms what might be a technically observable issue to someone with the right equipment looking for "torture test" issues.

    Zones - I counted 480 zones. I'm not a professional reviewer so that might not be the final count, but that's what I got. Given that the set looks worlds better than my plasma, I don't have a problem with what some people think is a low zone count. Will the 65" be better? No idea, but I have no complaints with the 75" and it's, well, huge.

    Angle viewing:
    We don't notice any issues from viewing anywhere in the living room, dining room, or kitchen. Standing sideways to the set - at greater than 60 degrees angle - the picture change is perceptible to the eye, but I don't know who would watch sports or a movie at that angle. It is a non-issue at any normal viewing angle even in a large room.

    Wall mount:
    I have the zero gap wall mount and my television has zero gap and sits perfectly flush to the wall. Works as advertised. The ability to adjust the angle came in handy because I didn't get the bracket mounted level, but can move the display around very easily.

    Upscaling:
    It's good, but this is a big set and non-4k content does not look like 4k content. I'm not sure how else to describe it other than non-4k movies look like they have a slight film grain. It looks good, especially for the size of the screen, but it's noticeable enough that I upgraded my Netflix account on Day 2 because I'd rather pay $3/month more than look at upscaled images.

    Motion:
    Again, coming from a plasma, the motion took the most work to dial in. We've found two settings that work for us. Once we found the right settings for us we stopped noticing motion at all - side by side with our plasma we don't notice any difference. This is particularly impressive given that the jump from the 51" plasma to 75" QLED is a huge step up in size.

    Gaming:
    This is the best gaming display I have ever experienced. Games on the XBox One X and PS4 look and play like they were built for this set. Not much else to say - if you game this is the set to get.

    Computer monitor:
    See gaming. Huge. Bright. I can't see pixels even when sitting close.

    Like Joey from modernwize I don't think my settings are going to be for everyone (or anyone else, who knows). My wife and I both disliked the Rtings settings recommendations - we found their settings to be too dark and dim, too flat, and too orange.

    ------------------------
    I have a graduate degree and like to look at a lot of hard data before making a purchase - in this case, on paper, contrast ratio and ability to handle motion were key determinants for me. All of that is well and good, but as you've pointed out, at the end of the day what the human eye sees isn't always the same as the data that a machine gives.

    The Q9FN is the first time I've watched a show and it looked like real life. The sun looks like the sun. Water looks like water. On my plasma and with movies there has always been a bit of suspension of disbelief - with the Q9 it just looks like I'm living in the scene.

    Not to beat up on Rtings too much, but they seem to have missed the point of this set with the settings that they based their ratings off of. Taking a 3300 nit-capable set and hamstringing it down to 100 nits with aggressively dim settings doesn't give a realistic measure of the set's capabilities. We tried their settings first, and we would've returned the set based on their dirty orange look - but once we started using the set's full capabilities it really started to shine.
    Sin duda muy positivas y de dos tipos que vienen de plasma/kuro.
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    Buenas. Como sabemos si las q8 y q7 que se venden son las nuevas o las del año pasado?
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    bien fácil , entra en Samsung , pagina oficial , y veras los dibujos de cada pantalla pertenece al mismo que hay en la caja de embalaje, y además en la caja de embalaje pone en grande 2018
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    bien fácil , entra en Samsung , pagina oficial , y veras los dibujos de cada pantalla pertenece al mismo que hay en la caja de embalaje, y además en la caja de embalaje pone en grande 2018
    Aparte de la caja en el interior te encontraras con que el one conect es 2 veces mas grueso, no lleva cable de corriente en el televisor(lo lleva el one conect) y el pie en vez de ser en forma de V es recto visto de frente.
    sopene ha agradecido esto.

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    Cambridge CX60 +Cambridge CXN + Cambridge CXC

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    Aparte de la caja en el interior te encontraras con que el one conect es 2 veces mas grueso, no lleva cable de corriente en el televisor(lo lleva el one conect) y el pie en vez de ser en forma de V es recto visto de frente.
    Me fijaré en el pie, porque en las páginas donde venden estas tvs no especifican si son 2017 o 2018... Las q7 y q8 siguen siendo inferiores a las KS del 2016? Me parece que voy a esperar un año más con mi actual 55ks8000 pata negra... Saludos
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    TV QLED 165,1 cm (65") Samsung 65Q9F, UHD 4K, Smart TV 2879,20


    Que os parece el precio?
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    TV QLED 165,1 cm (65") Samsung 65Q9F, UHD 4K, Smart TV 2879,20


    Que os parece el precio?
    El precio esta bien, solo que pon el enlace para ver si es la de este año, porque según lo que has puesto parece mas a la del 2017 a no ser que te hayas dejado la "FN"

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    Me fijaré en el pie, porque en las páginas donde venden estas tvs no especifican si son 2017 o 2018... Las q7 y q8 siguen siendo inferiores a las KS del 2016? Me parece que voy a esperar un año más con mi actual 55ks8000 pata negra... Saludos
    Fijate en el pie y One conect(con este ya sales de dudas).


    2017


    2018

    Última edición por jhonnya4; 08/05/2018 a las 13:47

    TV
    Samsung 60Ks7000
    Samsung Qled 65Q7F
    Philips 65Oled804

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    Cambridge CX60 +Cambridge CXN + Cambridge CXC

    Altavoces[/I]
    Vienna Beethovven Baby Grand
    Set 5.1 Jamo C95
    Sonus Faber Principia 3

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    Es la del año pasado, mucho peor que la nueva Q9FN.

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    EDITO:ya te lo dijo Sceips

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    Samsung Qled 65Q7F
    Philips 65Oled804

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    Cambridge CX60 +Cambridge CXN + Cambridge CXC

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    Vienna Beethovven Baby Grand
    Set 5.1 Jamo C95
    Sonus Faber Principia 3

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    TV QLED 165,1 cm (65") Samsung 65Q9F, UHD 4K, Smart TV 2879,20


    Que os parece el precio?
    Me encaja bastante...Donde está a ese precio? Edito: Veo que es la vieja... Tanta diferencia se llevan realmente?

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    Muchas gracias por los comentarios y la ayuda

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    Pues sí, se llevan una gran diferencia en cuanto a calidad de imagen.

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