Philips 7304 and HDR

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27/10/2019, 12:01
DarKamui

Philips 7304 and HDR

Hello,

i need some advice with HDR of Philips 7304 because if i use UHD Blu Ray (hdmi connection), color looks washed out.
Here's some pics to explain what i mean:

SDR - Color Setting: 53

http://darkamui.altervista.org/immag...-_Color_53.jpg

HDR - Color Setting: 53

http://darkamui.altervista.org/immag...-_Color_53.jpg

HDR - Color Settings: 75

http://darkamui.altervista.org/immag...-_Color_75.jpg

There are some differences, but i have to set color setting to 75 instead of my default 53 to have this result. If i keep the same setting as SDR, so 53, colours look completely washed out.
There is something i'm doing wrong?

Thank you in advance!!
31/10/2019, 21:52
jhonnya4

Re: Philips 7304 and HDR

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Hello,

i need some advice with HDR of Philips 7304 because if i use UHD Blu Ray (hdmi connection), color looks washed out.
Here's some pics to explain what i mean:

SDR - Color Setting: 53

http://darkamui.altervista.org/immag...-_Color_53.jpg

HDR - Color Settings: 75

http://darkamui.altervista.org/immag...-_Color_75.jpg

There are some differences, but i have to set color setting to 75 instead of my default 53 to have this result. If i keep the same setting as SDR, so 53, colours look completely washed out.
There is something i'm doing wrong?

Thank you in advance!!

Haber si te puede ayudar alguno del foro.
01/12/2019, 11:19
DarKamui

Re: Philips 7304 and HDR

Can somebody help me?
I really can't get the HDR picture to look well as SDR (the only way is to activate HDR Plus - that crushes whites - and Color Enhancement - that fakes colors)...
02/12/2019, 14:10
Richmon

Re: Philips 7304 and HDR

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Can somebody help me?
I really can't get the HDR picture to look well as SDR (the only way is to activate HDR Plus - that crushes whites - and Color Enhancement - that fakes colors)...

What tv size you have?

you are right, you have to set colour to 75 or HDR Plus al minimum to solve it (mine is 50" VA)
02/12/2019, 14:39
kalymocho

Re: Philips 7304 and HDR

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Hello,

i need some advice with HDR of Philips 7304 because if i use UHD Blu Ray (hdmi connection), color looks washed out.
Here's some pics to explain what i mean:

SDR - Color Setting: 53

http://darkamui.altervista.org/immag...-_Color_53.jpg

HDR - Color Setting: 53

http://darkamui.altervista.org/immag...-_Color_53.jpg

HDR - Color Settings: 75

http://darkamui.altervista.org/immag...-_Color_75.jpg

There are some differences, but i have to set color setting to 75 instead of my default 53 to have this result. If i keep the same setting as SDR, so 53, colours look completely washed out.
There is something i'm doing wrong?

Thank you in advance!!

Did you try in a different HDMI port?
02/12/2019, 15:32
DarKamui

Re: Philips 7304 and HDR

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What tv size you have?

you are right, you have to set colour to 75 or HDR Plus al minimum to solve it (mine is 50" VA)

Mine is a 43"

So i'm doing right then?
To compensate colours i have to set the TV like this:

Colour: 60 - Colour Enhancement: Max (i dislike it, but it's the only way to compensate the loss of saturation) - HDR Plus: min/med/max (depending on the content)

Or

Colour: 75 - Colour enhancemente: off - HDR Plus: min/med/max (depending on the content)

Whate are your suggestions?

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Did you try in a different HDMI port?

Yes, tried all 4 HDMI Ports
02/12/2019, 17:14
Richmon

Re: Philips 7304 and HDR

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Mine is a 43"

So i'm doing right then?
To compensate colours i have to set the TV like this:

Colour: 60 - Colour Enhancement: Max (i dislike it, but it's the only way to compensate the loss of saturation) - HDR Plus: min/med/max (depending on the content)

Or

Colour: 75 - Colour enhancemente: off - HDR Plus: min/med/max (depending on the content)

Whate are your suggestions?

Yes, tried all 4 HDMI Ports

43 is different panel, IPS. Mine is 50", VA, so the settings may be different but what I have seen in several reviews/forums and have checked that is the better way is like yo say, playing with colour, colour enhacement (in SDR) and HDR plus in 4k/HDR
02/12/2019, 19:42
DarKamui

Re: Philips 7304 and HDR

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43 is different panel, IPS. Mine is 50", VA, so the settings may be different but what I have seen in several reviews/forums and have checked that is the better way is like yo say, playing with colour, colour enhacement (in SDR) and HDR plus in 4k/HDR

If i use colour enhancement in SDR that is the results:

Original Source:

https://i.postimg.cc/4mwDcGWT/Original.jpg

Colour Enhancement OFF:

https://i.postimg.cc/D8y2HBDn/OFF.jpg

colour Enhancement ON (min/med/max is the same):

https://i.postimg.cc/8JSGHHM8/MIN.jpg

As you can see, it fakes off colours (light green became light blue), so i think it shouldn't be used in SDR at all. Don't know if in HDR is the same (don't have something to make some tries)
03/12/2019, 10:44
Richmon

Re: Philips 7304 and HDR

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If i use colour enhancement in SDR that is the results:

Original Source:

https://i.postimg.cc/4mwDcGWT/Original.jpg

Colour Enhancement OFF:

https://i.postimg.cc/D8y2HBDn/OFF.jpg

colour Enhancement ON (min/med/max is the same):

https://i.postimg.cc/8JSGHHM8/MIN.jpg

As you can see, it fakes off colours (light green became light blue), so i think it shouldn't be used in SDR at all. Don't know if in HDR is the same (don't have something to make some tries)

Try these settings I got from avforums https://www.avforums.com/threads/phi...2233157/page-2

Picture Mode: Movie
Colour: 60
Contrast: 80
Sharpness: 2
Brightness: 40
Colour enhancement: Off
Colour temperature: Warm
White point alignment, 2 point: Red - WP: 127, Green - WP:90, Blue - WP: 67
Contrast mode: Off
HDR Upscaling: Off
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Video Contrast: 90
Light sensor: Off
Gamma: +2
Ultra resolution: Off
Noise reduction: Off
MPEG artefact reduction: Off
Motion styles: Off
03/12/2019, 11:14
DarKamui

Re: Philips 7304 and HDR

Thank you, i've seen that calibrations (i'm on the same thread :) but noone answered me :/), they are for SDR pictures :)
I think the only solution is to activate color enhancement and boost color up at this point. Today i'll try to call Philips support center and share with you what they'll say!

Update: Philips told me that this TV doesn't support HDR XD! After a little arguing, they told me to send them some videos, i'll keep you update.

Meanwhile, i found out in a forum that the problem is due to the NVM Firmware that need and update (through philips customer service), but it's difficult to talk with them..
03/12/2019, 18:22
Richmon

Re: Philips 7304 and HDR

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Thank you, i've seen that calibrations (i'm on the same thread :) but noone answered me :/), they are for SDR pictures :)
I think the only solution is to activate color enhancement and boost color up at this point. Today i'll try to call Philips support center and share with you what they'll say!

Update: Philips told me that this TV doesn't support HDR XD! After a little arguing, they told me to send them some videos, i'll keep you update.

Meanwhile, i found out in a forum that the problem is due to the NVM Firmware that need and update (through philips customer service), but it's difficult to talk with them..

There is a new firmware update today!. Check your tv
03/12/2019, 19:06
DarKamui

Re: Philips 7304 and HDR

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There is a new firmware update today!. Check your tv

Done it yesterday, Dolby vision is a little better but the problem with HDR remains. :)
However, i found out that my TV hasn't done a firmware upgrade, and it seems to be the one needed... But i don't know how to download it (it's the November one)