Shootout HDTVtest 2017

Iniciado por banding&clouding

Puff, los resultados son aún más ajustados de lo que me imaginaba, y eso que ya dije siempre que lo eran.
Panasonic sólo gana en 3 aparatados: Precisión de contraste, precisión de color, y uniformidad...
Quién se va a comprar el OLED más caro cuando los otros 2 le ganan en el resto.
Y eso que cambiaron a última hora la EZ950 porque había miedo que entre el problema del procesador, la ausencia de filtro, y los bajos nits no diera la talla.

En Twitter see critica que no hayan valorado el Dolby Vision cuando ya hay películas, del mismo modo que valoraban en su día el nacido HDR. Dicen que es porque HDTVTEST promociona la venta de Sony y Panasonic (lo indican en sus vídeos). Y tampoco se habló del problema del procesador de Panasonic cuando siguen sin atreglarlo.

Lo del tone-mapping, aunque Vincent explicó hasta la saciedad que era un valor no tangible ya que era una cuestión de gustos, ya dije en su momento que el que más gustaría al público es la forma en la que lo gestiona LG, de ahí que le dieran el premio.

Lo dicho, todos contentos. Las OLED barren otro año más y confirman lo que venimos diciendo y disfrutando sus usuarios año tras año (excepto los de una país al que envían todos los paneles defectuosos).

De echo, mira lo que dicen en distintos foros:

There is no conspiracy... Previously years' iterations of OLED TVs were not able to perform as good as significantly brighter LCD equivalents with respect to HDR... It's as simple as that.

The whole aspect of peak luminosity and overall image luminosity is what has been the draw for many folks with respect to LCD TVs and OLED's comparatively inferior performance with respect to high APL video and HDR in particular has been a turn-off that has kept many folks from buying into OLED, myself personally and my company included... HOWEVER, the 2017 OLED TVs are game-changing... That HDR performance difference is for the most part now history! If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes I would have had trouble believing it, but the 2017 LG OLEDs in particular totally hold their own against the Sony ZD9, even with higher APL scenes too! The peak luminosity bump has made all the difference... So what I just saw at the UK shootout, plus at the recent THX training which I attended (again), is more than enough to convince me... In short, we'll be buying a bunch of LG OLEDs for showcasing in our shiny new experience centre, plus one will likely end up in my living room too!

The biggest surprise of all this year has been the fact that the Sony A1 OLED is a huge disappointment. (Sorry Al! ) But what's most surprising is that it does not perform significantly superior to the LG OLEDs, which is what we had expected... And at the UK shootout I found the Sony A1 OLED to underform in certain respects as compared with both the LG and the Panasonic OLEDs...

I know the folks at the UK shootout gave the main prize to the Panasonic, but we don't agree with that decision... Overall for us (and some others) the LG OLED was the overall winner... Whilst the Panasonic did have the edge over the LG with respect to a couple of aspects, the LG beat the Panasonic in more instances than the other way around... Where for example, the LG was clearly showing significantly superior peak luminance capability where the Panasonic's ABL was an issue a number of times to the extent that that would be a deal-breaker for us, whereas the LG even kept up with the Sony ZD9 in most instances, even with high APL scenes! Also the LG OLED very clearly has superior HDR performance as compared with the Panasonic OLED, plus it is better for gaming too, and that's not all...

So, what we took away from the UK shootout, is being totally blown away and surprised by just how amazing is the LG OLED, whilst at the same time being disappointed by the Sony A1 OLED, and everything else was pretty much as expected, including the lousy all-round performance from the Samsung Q9.

We still very much like the Sony ZD9/Z9D, especially the 75" and 100" iterations, both of which are significantly superior to the 65"; where this has been our 'favourite TV' to date... However, we now have another 'favourite TV', namely the LG OLEDs... Now we just need for LG to release a 100" version of the W7

I should add that no TV is perfect as of right now, in that the LG OLEDs do have some imperfections/flaws, such as with respect to the potential for yellow banding and uniformity issues, the severity of which ranges significantly between panels... However, there does not exist any other consumer TV which is 'more perfect' and the primary issues and/or reasons for not making the transition from buying LCD to buying OLED as of right now quite simply no longer exist. And this is coming from someone who to date has steadfast refused to buy into OLED and currently owns only LCD TVs

HDTVtest TV Shootout Results: OLED Sweeps All Categories - Page 4 - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews

Yes they should have included the os as that comes into day to day viewing so should been Inc.

They seemed to have LG wings clipped by not including Dolby Vision, as it is a major feature with importance on the better pic quality on uhd. Not many titles out but more and more will come and soon will be reference Dolby vision titles which will be lost on the Panasonic.

So let's recap, best home theatre set but hasn't got Dolby vision which was wrongly omitted from the shootout, not allowing Dolby vision in the shootout because the other sets have not got it is like not allowing the use of smooth gradation on the sony as panny and LG not got it. And lost on hdr to the b7 on hdr, never mind the lack of dv:rolleyes:

after all its not LG fault that sony and panasonic couldnt get their sh*t together and had it from launch,after all dolby vision is on 2016 oled sets so hardly just sprung up on them. At least sony is getting a dv update.

Best overall tv to Panasonic yet didn't win the best living room tv which was won by Sony :facepalm:. Best overall tv needs to win the best living room tv as that's the major thing for most people imo. As does best home theatre tv needs to win the best hdr and have Dolby vision.

Also the lack of the loewe sets in the shootout was also a big mistake . What was the excuse for not having the bild 5 and bild 7 there which is comparable price wise to the Panasonic. Maybe a win for any loewe would do much for sales as it is :rolleyes:

For 6k I rather pay the extra 500 and get a loewe bild 7. Or better still save some money and get a a1 or LG oled.

Anyone at the shootout mad enough to buy the Panasonic even though it lacks Dolby vision

https://www.avforums.com/threads/tv-...#post-25305009

Es decir, y si hubieran valorado también el contenido en Dolby Vision? Como quedaría entonces?

Cuándo se sabe que el monitor Dolby Pulsar se usa única y exclusivamente en contenidos HDR Dolby Vision y no HDR10 y en ese momento de la prueba ninguna TV las puso a prueba con contenido en DV (la EZ1000 no es compatible y es más cara).

El monitor OLED Sony Trimaster X300 se usa para masterizar contenidos en HDR10 y por tanto que casualidad que en mejor tone mapping era la B7 en primer lugar seguido de la EZ1000.

All the OLEDs this year are quite similar in quality. Little in it, give or take.
So if you happen to have any one of them that makes you a winner

Yes they are quite similar in performance and just some little minuses and plusses in each set . Have a E7 but could easily be just as happy with a A1 but just minor things here and there made me choose the e7. The Panasonic really needs to be best at everything to justify the price

Además, los contenidos en DV se van a masificar pronto y crecerán de forma regular cada vez mas:

Paramount commits to bringing Dolby Vision & Atmos to UHD Blu-ray - FlatpanelsHD



O mejor todavía, como quedaría entonces si no se usara ningún tipo de procesamiento, ni filtros ni nada por el estilo? Eso en el Shootout americano que fue PROFESIONAL sin ningún tipo de añadido extra ganó la E7 a pesar de todo porque era el que más se acercaba a lo que mostraba el monitor Sony Trimaster OLED X300.