Etapas amplificadoras para sub HUM. Información compilada.

Una pregunta rapida.

Una rotel 1572 de clase d de 250x2 y 500w x2 puede mover bien dos gto1514??
Estos hum serian acompañados por otros dos sub comerciales de doble driver de 15" epik empire.

Digo esto por el ruido que pueden producir las inuke.

Por si os sirve de referencia, las etapas de potencia Hypex UCD180 tienen una sensibilidad de entrada de 1,1V para su máxima salida, justo antes del clipping, medidas con un tono de 1KHz.
La mayoría de los previos o salidas preout de un AV, suelen tener una salida de 2V, por lo que entra en rango.

Pero valen o no valen para mover 2 SuperWooper JBL GTO1514 y llevarlos al límite

Claro que valen.
Lo que pasa es que vende más los 6000W de una iNuke que los 180W de una Hypex.

No me tires de la lengua que le damos una vuelta al tema

Iniciado por jalejos

Claro que valen.
Lo que pasa es que vende más los 6000W de una iNuke que los 180W de una Hypex.

Los "6000W" de la inuke venden y tiran más que los 180W de la Hypex si añades un conversor de ganancias entre la salida del A/V y la entrada de la etapa.


Un saludte

Cuando pases por Valencia, nos vamos a casa de Lorac para demostrartelo. Aunque reconozco que lo que ofrece la iNuke por ese precio, no se puede igualar (ni las luces de feria )

Iniciado por jalejos

Cuando pases por Valencia, nos vamos a casa de Lorac para demostrartelo. Aunque reconozco que lo que ofrece la iNuke por ese precio, no se puede igualar (ni las luces de feria )

Las Inuke están analizadas y dan prácticamente la potencia que declara fabricante. Si las Hypex dan esos 180w no pueden con las Inuke (évidentemente alimentadas con la sensibilidad adecuada). Ahora... si el fabricante miente y esas Hypex dan seis o siete veces la potencia que declan ya es otra historia

Échale un vistazo a este enlace donde testean la inuke Nu6000 y puedes ver toda clase de gráficas. No voy a entrar en alguna pitufada comentada sobre el sonido pero las mediciones objetivas (lo que nos interesa) son irrefutables :

So, on to the results, first up, the continuous tone tests.

8 Ohms:
The Behringer was happy to drive 8 Ohm loads at full power (limiter active) for 1 minute without any change in power output. With both channels driven it produced 1.17kW at 1kHz and 1.08kW at 31Hz.

4 Ohms:


The Behringer was happy to drive 1 channel at 4 Ohms with no reduction in output at 1 minute. Power output was 2.27kW at 1kHz and 2.12kW at 31Hz. This demonstrates that the amp section should drive high power into 4 Ohms without any short-term limitation. However, when driving two channels simultaneously the amp would trip its protection and shut down, needing a power on/off cycle to reset. Since the power amp part was happy to deliver the power then I conclude there is a total power limit on the supply part and rather than engaging the limiters to reduce output the amp switches off. This seems a strange decision on the part of the designer, better the show go on at reduced level if the amp finds itself producing sine-wave like power outputs. It is only fair to remember however that this is a harsh test and the amplifier was pulling 24Arms from the mains at the point it cut-out! (Note: the 12A breaker on the rear did not operate as it has a time delay, this was an internal electronic limitation).
Whether this ever occurs in a music situation is debatable and the burst tests below will demonstrate its actual ability with more realistic signals. That said it does mean it is possible to trip the amp if you abuse it into 4 Ohms, not ideal.

If the output power was kept below 1.7kW per channel then the amp would not trip. To leave a margin I left the amp running at 1.5kW per channel to see if I could get a 1 minute figure. Unfortunately after 15 seconds the circuit breaker opened, not surprising at it was drawing 22A from the mains at the time. So in the end I didn't get a 1 minute figure for 4 Ohms running but I expect it will be around the 1.2kW per channel mark as that produces a current draw of 15A which would eventually trip the breaker

Behringer inuke NU6000 vs KAM KXD7200 bench tested - Speakerplans.com Forums - Page 1

People often say how come they can get away with a 10A IEC inlet then? Well thats because the safety regulations require an audio amp to be tested at 1/8th its rated power as this is generally agreed to be representative of normal music played at just clipping levels. Thats why the behringer says "620W" on the back of it: 2 channels of 2.3kW = 4.6kW, divide 8 is 575W and hence with some losses it will draw 620W from the mains. In theory this should be the "worse case" but as I've already said, used as a bass amplifier and driven into limiting the average power output will be much higher than 575W! It would be interesting to see what power it can be made to pull when used with a system and driven hard, I suspect it will be lower than you think!

Behringer inuke NU6000 vs KAM KXD7200 bench tested - Speakerplans.com Forums - Page 2


Y es que la propia behringer ya lo deja claro:

there is an interesting read at Soundforums.net-Behringer-iNUKE-NU6000-amplifier

quote of Post 31 in this linked thread:
Right finally after two e-mails to Behringer asking whether the iNuke 6000 amplifier's specs are RMS or Peak, they finally tell me, they're Peak power, so I guess that means the amplifier is only capable of outputting in the region of 750-900 watts RMS per channel and even that might be burst right?

http://forum.speakerplans.com/inuke-...860_page9.html


750-900 RMS por canal garantizados... potencia que dudo sobremanera alcance la Hypex que declara 180W


Un saludete

Iniciado por jalejos

Cuando pases por Valencia, nos vamos a casa de Lorac para demostrartelo. Aunque reconozco que lo que ofrece la iNuke por ese precio, no se puede igualar (ni las luces de feria )

Ja, ja, ja, las luces de feria .... la verdad que deberían tener una opción para deshabilitarlas, aunque cumplen su cometido, pero la inuke incorpora DSP por lo que es más completa que una etapa sin ecualización, ya que la zona grave sin EQ es un desastre generalmente.