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    Aquí os paso otro LINK, es de CHRIS WIGGLES, otro más más sobre este tema, de él he rescatado este fragmento que lo deja todo totalmente claro.

    2) Digital outputs and digital levels

    DIGITAL OUTPUTS AND DIGITAL LEVES


    I explained IRE in background section 1, so you should already recognize that IRE only describes analog waveforms, and is ambiguous as to the actual intended image content. When using digital transmission formats like SDI, DVI, HDMI, analog measurements like IRE units or mV are useless for describing the image data. As briefly explained before, digital video uses 8-bit encoding, which creates 256 unique steps from 0-255.

    Video from DVDs or other digital sources, follows Studio RGB standards which encodes reference black at level 16, and nominal reference white at level 235. Outside these bounds is the footroom and headroom that contain blacker-than-black(BTB) and peak white data. Footroom and headroom is necessary for the best possible video reproduction for the reasons discussed briefly in background section 1:



    Enter the PC.
    If you're a computer graphics person, you may recognize the 0-255 scale of digital levels. But you may be confused because with computer graphics black is at 0, white is at 255, and that's it! There is no footroom or headroom for BTB or peak white data. Since computers and video often have to be dealt with at the same time, this creates a problem between PC levels and Studio levels.

    Projectors with digital inputs have to be able to handle both video applications and computer graphics applications. They should be able to calibrate or switch their white and black levels to accommodate both Studio levels and PC levels, but some don't. Because video sources and graphics sources may be used simultaneously in some applications, video source manufacturers tend to include an option to leave the digital outputs at Studio levels, or to re-map them to PC levels.

    Mapping Studio levels to PC levels can be done a few ways. Sometimes all the levels are just shifted down 16 steps, thus clipping off BTB data, but not introducing banding/contouring or clipping highlight details. If there are other PC level sources fed to the display, their whites will be substantially brighter. The clipping of BTB data is undesirable and the brightness mis-match is also noticeable, however note that there will be no banding problems. Usually the levels are expanded: digital 16 (black) is shifted down to 0, and 235 (white) is shifted up to 255 (or sometimes a value slightly lower than 255) thus expanding the numerical range between black and white to match PC levels. Note that this doesn't improve contrast in the final image. In this case, re-mapping Studio levels to PC levels will destroy BTB and peak white image data, and introduce banding/contouring artifacts because of the expansion. This is also undesirable.

    Always try to maintain Studio levels whenever possible in your system. You should use Avia PRO or DVE to test whether or not levels are being clipped. Both discs contain patterns with both BTB and peak white data. Note that the current consumer Avia does not, it only contains data in the range or 16-235. Thus if BTB or peak white data is being clipped, you won't see it with Avia! If you are clipping the black or white bars in Avia, then your system is doing even more severe damage to the video by clipping above black shadow details and below-white detail: very bad! Note that Avia PRO also has some very useful ramp patterns with levels encoded at equal width so as to be completely banding-free. These are very useful for observing banding/contouring caused by the playback system.

    For more reading, see this thread, especially the expert posts by Don Munsil and Stacey Spears:
    ¡AMEN!
    Última edición por Kyokushinkai; 29/04/2011 a las 19:04
    Mike43 y cesarion han agradecido esto.

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    Cita Iniciado por Kyokushinkai Ver mensaje
    Aquí os paso otro LINK, es de CHRIS WIGGLES, otro más más sobre este tema, de él he rescatado este fragmento que lo deja todo totalmente claro.



    ¡AMEN!
    ¿Y quien cuestiona lo dicho en este link que nos das?
    Me permito extraer el fragmento que habla acerca de lo que he mantenido
    4) HTPCs

    If you are using an HTPC, I will dodge the complex arena that is computer video, and merely recommend strongly that you do your best to maintain Studio levels and prevent your computer from expanding the video to PC levels. To check this, examine deep ramps on Avia PRO, or use the ramps and PLUGE patterns on DVE. Note that consumer Avia does not contain data outside the bounds of reference black/white (16-235) so you will not be able to observe the clipping of data outside these bounds using Avia. Moving to PC levels will usually clip data 1-15 and 235-255(or significant portions of this data); this data is present in the ramps and PLUGE patterns on DVE and in many patterns on Avia PRO.

    Remember that proper playback of video requires Studio levels to maintain the full range of image data. This includes data outside the ‘bounds’ of the reference black/white points. Achieving this on a PC can be difficult sometimes, and it also means that your desktop and your video cannot both look correct at the same time. Expanding your video to match PC levels (0-255) will make your desktop and your video ‘agree’ and eliminate the need to recalibrate, but you’ve also negatively impacted video playback by clipping useful image data and introducing banding/contouring artifacts.
    This is undesirable, you should strive to maintain Studio levels if at all possible. Since this guide is directed at HT enthusiasts, I am assuming that accurate video playback is priority #1. I acknowledge that for users in other environments(multi-use, graphics etc) the problems introduced by expanding to PC levels might be an acceptable compromise for convenience. But wherever you strive for the best possible video quality, Studio levels are fundamental.


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    Recuerde que la correcta reproducción de video requiere niveles de Estudio para mantener el rango completo de datos de imágenes.
    This includes data outside the 'bounds' of the reference black/white points.
    Esto incluye los datos fuera de los 'límites' del negro de referencia / puntos blancos.
    Achieving this on a PC can be difficult sometimes, and it also means that your desktop and your video cannot both look correct at the same time.
    El logro de este en una PC puede ser difícil a veces, y esto también significa que su escritorio y su video no se ve bien tanto al mismo tiempo.
    Expanding your video to match PC levels (0-255) will make your desktop and your video 'agree' and eliminate the need to recalibrate, but you've also negatively impacted video playback by clipping useful image data and introducing banding/contouring artifacts.
    Ampliar el vídeo para que coincida con los niveles de PC (0-255) harán de su escritorio y su video "de acuerdo" y eliminar la necesidad de calibrar, pero usted también ha afectado negativamente la reproducción de vídeo por medio de cortes de datos útiles de la imagen y la introducción de bandas / contorno artefactos.
    This is undesirable, you should strive to maintain Studio levels if at all possible.
    Esto no es deseable, debe esforzarse por mantener los niveles de estudio, si es posible.
    Since this guide is directed at HT enthusiasts, I am assuming that accurate video playback is priority #1.
    Dado que esta guía está dirigida a los entusiastas de HT, estoy asumiendo que la reproducción de vídeo precisa es la prioridad # 1.
    I acknowledge that for users in other environments(multi-use, graphics etc) the problems introduced by expanding to PC levels might be an acceptable compromise for convenience.
    Reconozco que para los usuarios de otros entornos (de usos múltiples, gráficos, etc) los problemas que provoca la expansión de los niveles de PC podría ser un compromiso aceptable para mayor comodidad.
    But wherever you strive for the best possible video quality, Studio levels are fundamental.
    Pero donde quiera que luchar por la mejor calidad de vídeo posible, los niveles de estudio son fundamentales.
    Pues esto es lo que he intentado explicar con mis propias palabras respecto a como se puede usar sin clipping el PC / HTPC

    No sabía que este hombre se hubiese tomado todas estas molestias en aclarar todas estas cosas.

    Te agradezco el link, del que efectivamente se pueden extraer cosas francamente interesantes, siempre que este libre de errores (nadie lo está).

    Si bien parte de lo relativo al DVD lo conocía, me ha resultado útil el tema de la masterización en 0-255. Que tal como lo plantea me parece bastante lógico

    Así...que amen y sin pecado concebido...tema terminado
    Última edición por Kokotxo; 29/04/2011 a las 23:25

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